Badge Title: History
Group members:
Ben
Hyo
Marco
Date: March 24 - April 03
Progress Journal:
24/03
We read an article in the elective reading about Ms. Loridan-Ivens, who is a Jewish. After reading it, we chose the question is history meant to teach us lessons based on the mistakes of the past, as it was the most relevant one to the reading. It's shown in the reading that she believed we have not learnt much from the history of people being abused, mistreated, especially Jews and that it hasn't changed much even until now. Notably is the examples of the Charlie Hebdo attack, where people gather to rally in the streets, while another incident in 2012, which consist of Jews, had no cared
28/03
Our group's question was "what is the relationship between history and memory." To be able to do this, we would need to find a story of a history events and a story of someone who has actually been through it in order for us to compare and contrast the 2, as we have known that memories can fade away and in history, there are different biases that could affect the person when they are retelling it
The point we are trying to make here is that when retelling a history event that you have actually been through, it involved the use of memory and as we have known, memories fade away with time, so the things we are telling now might not be so accurate and that there are various biases that could distort the story
We are going to need to find someone who has actually been through a historical events and them retelling it, and then we would compare their stories about it with another source
Memory and history are most related in oral history than written one
We found that when she talked about the Mohammed incident in France, her story was distorted a lot by her emotions, most notably was by the fact that she was so angry at the French, not paying much attention to this incident, but made a big deal out of the Charlie Hepdo one, while in fact, the Mohammed incident was made into National tragedy day, which ruled out a lot of things she said
30/03
The main point we want to make in this presentation is that how oral history is different from written history. While written history is the history of the exact things that happened at the time being, containing more of facts than your emotion on the experience, oral history is the contrary, as when someone who had lived through that time telling you about it, they would most likely insert the emotion into their, so when we are listening to oral history, we are not just learning about that event itself, but also the person telling it.
My personal goals would be able to be a bit more confident when doing the presentation
Planning Journal:
Our group primary aim for this AOK is to provide how different oral history is compared to written history and how it is affected by memories. We would use the example of the interview of Ms. Loridan-Ivens, who is a Jewish and has been through the holocaust. When she retold her story, there are aspects of her stories that are affected by memories, thus, we are learning more about her than the history, but it is also knowledge. We will try to prove this point to our classmates
Elective Journal
On the reading “Jewish Deportee on Persecution, Past and Present.” of the nytimes, we are reading about a Jewish lady, Ms. Loridan-Ivens, who had been through the holocaust. She retold her story of the time when she was younger, and then she would give her opinion on the current events that happened where she lived, like the Charlie Hepdo attack and the Mohammed Merah incident. When she gives these opinion, she tend to be more criticized toward how the French react to 2 different events. While the Mohammed Merah atack, which was consist more of French Jews as the victim received little attention, the Charlie Hepdo attack received much more and she asked the reporter that if it was French Jews, would people care? This is providing us new knowledge about her, as when she is retelling her story and when giving her opinion on the events, they are affected by her memories and thus, this is giving us new knowledge of her life, history of the time through her eyes.
What is the relationship between history and memory?
History and memory are connected with each other, mostly through oral history, which include a person retelling an event they have lived through. As we have known, there are a lot of different biases that can distort our memories, like emotion, and when retelling it orally, it needs memory and through time memory fade, so when retelling it, we are also retelling our life.
History and memory are connected with each other, through oral history because to retell an event you have lived through, it needs memory and memory fades with time, distorted by biases, which in turn distorted the story.
Reflection Journal:
I think that we did a great job on the AOK, although it was the first one. We were able to prove our points to our classmates and explained them. We were able to express each of our opinion and would be able to put all of that together and chose the essential question that seem to be the best for us to present on. It is great to learn how when we are listening to oral history, we are actually learning about the time through the eyes of the person telling it, thus providing us a more unique experience, comparing to written history. Also, I noticed during the presentation of other groups, one group gave an example of 2 different books written about the Civil war. While one provided us with the emotion of people living during then, one was more of facts and numbers. These are very interesting
Documentation of project:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tfFz92KFytHR0CM6O40cHJv-LH6QM3cm2rJyMXIE9E4/edit?usp=sharing
Extension Proposal:
https://www.slideshare.net/Honori/role-of-language-and-reason-in-history