Lord of the Flies Destiney Baker

Power Corrupts

Ralph and Jack

The power struggle over who was in charge and what should be done first and what was more important came into question between Jack and Ralph. Jack felt that hunting for pigs was more important then building and maintaining a fire to be rescue which is how Ralph felt. Jack liked being the one in charge and felt his way was the right way. Sometimes even became violent to assert his authority over weaker boys such as piggy. Would use words to belittle others and assert power over them.

Ralph leapt to his feet

"Jack! Jack! You haven't got the conch! Let him speak."

Jack's face swam near him

"And you shut up! Who are you, anyway! Sitting there telling people what to do. You can't hunt, you can't sing-"

"I'm chief. I was chosen"

(Chapter 5, pg.91)

Ralph and Jack go head to head

Ponyboy and Darry

In The Outsiders the boys have more of a collective power as a group. But it is clear that Darry, the brother of Ponyboy who is the main character/narrator of the book, is one of the eldest of the group. Not only that but because Darry is the eldest taking care of his younger brothers after their parents death its very easy for him to show authority and power over them. Such as when Darry becomes angry with Ponyboy for staying out too late without telling anyone where he was and Darry becomes angry at Ponyboy and then Sodapop, the other brother of the two, who tries to stick up for Ponyboy. The agrument soon becomes violent.

"Darry..." Sodapop began, but Darry turned on him. "You keep your trap shut! I'm sick and tired of hearin' you stick up for him."

He should never yell at Soda. Nobody should ever holler at my brother. I exploded.

"You don't yell at him!" I shouted.

Darry wheeled around and slapped me so hard that it knocked me against the door.

Suddenly it was deathly quiet. We had all frozen. Nobody in my family had ever hit me.


(Chapter 3, pg.44)

Ponyboy and Darry have a heated argument


The Stanford Prison Experiment has a very interesting example of corruption of power. When the guards who were also volunteers of the experiment, became more and more abusive of their power. Examples of them abusing their power being forcing prisoners to be put in a secluded cell draped in darkness as punishment, forcing prisoners to choose between their own well-being and another prisoner, humiliation, exhaustion, etc. In the video it shows an interview with one of the guards, a guard who didn't realize how inhumane he may have been during this experiment and later regrets much like how Darry in The Outsiders who regrets hitting Ponyboy as soon as it happens versus Jack in Lord of the Flies who doesn't regret nor apologizes for his abuse towards Piggy

Moral Compass

pig head simon and the beginning

In Lord of the Flies Simon begins to have these hallucinations of the pig head the boys put on a stick. The pig head is talking to him and the dialogue between the pig head or the lord of the flies gives the impression that Simon is gaining more of an incite on what the boys are doing and the morality of it all. The Beast shows Simon and confirms to him that The Beast isn't a real life thing roaming the forest of the island but instead is the boys within. What they've become on the inside. The innocence they have lost since setting foot on this island trying to survive.

“There isn’t anyone to help you. Only me. And I’m the Beast. . . . Fancy thinking the Beast was something you could hunt and kill! . . . You knew, didn’t you? I’m part of you? Close, close, close! I’m the reason why it’s no go? Why things are the way they are?”

Simon finds the truth

When Simon discovers this truth he tries to tell the rest of the boys but the savageness and loss of innocence of the boys lead the boys to mistake Simon as The Beast and they accidentally kill him.

The realization that they killed Simon doesn't sit well with Ralph at all. Jack and the boys don't seem to take much guilt for what they've done to their fellow friend yet continue on as though nothing happened. In a way Simon's death is like a wake up call, a beginning to an end.

switchblade johnny and the end

In The Outsiders Johnny, Ponyboy's bestfriend, kills a boy after the "Socs" attack them at the park late at night and nearly drown Ponyboy. In order to protect his friend he stabs the "Soc" who is holding Ponyboy's head under water in the fountain at the park. When the incident first occurs Johnny doesn't seem to feel guilty for helping his friend even though he took another person's life in the process. He also did it out of fear that the "Socs" were going to beat him up again. While Ponyboy is the one freaking out about Johnny killing someone, Johnny is calm and tells Ponyboy they need to runaway.

Later in the book after Johnny and Ponyboy runaway. They end up living in a church on the run with the help of Dally, who is apart of their greaser crew, they change their looks by bleaching their hair. When Dally comes to meet up with Ponyboy and Johnny to check in and update them on whats going on back home he informs them that the cops are looking for them and have their faces printed in the newspaper. Johnny speaks up suddenly demanding they go back and turn themselves in.

"Yeah," I said. "Darry always got the most ducks, though.

Him and Dad. Soda and I goofed around too much, scared most of our game away." I couldn't tell Dally that I hated to shoot things. He'd think I was soft.

"That was a good idea, I mean cuttin' your hair and bleachin' it. They printed your descriptions in the paper but you sure wouldn't fit 'em now."

Johnny had been quietly finishing his fifth barbecue sandwich, but now he announced: 'We're goin' back and turn ourselves in."

It was Dally's turn to gag. Then he swore awhile. Then he turned to Johnny and demanded: "What?"

"I said we're goin' back and turn ourselves in," Johnny repeated in a quiet voice. I was surprised but not shocked.

I had thought about turning ourselves in lots of times, but apparently the whole idea was a jolt to Dallas.

(Chapter 6, pg.74)

Johnny feels he'll be let off easy but it's obvious he isn't quite convinced he will be himself. Johnny has had a hard life similar to the other greasers and his relationship with his parents is strained but Johnny just wants to know that they care about him but it seems as though they show little concern for his well being when he asks Dally if they asked about him.

"My parents," Johnny repeated doggedly, "did they ask about me?"

"No," snapped Dally, "they didn't. Blast it, Johnny, what do they matter? Shoot, my old man don't give a hang whether I'm in jail or dead in a car wreck or drunk in the gutter. That don't bother me none."

Johnny didn't say anything. But he stared at the dashboard with such hurt bewilderment that I could have bawled.

(Chapter 6, pg.75)

After they decide to turn themselves in they head back to the abondoned church they were staying in when they see it's on fire. A class of young children are nearby when the greasers hear the teacher worry over two missing children who turn out to be in the burning church. Ponyboy and Johnny run to save them from inside the church and once they make it inside they find the kids each grabbing one and getting them out the window they came through. When Ponyboy is nearly out the window the ceiling begins to cave in. Johnny being behind him pushes Ponyboy out of the window and ends up with the ceiling falling in on him. Johnny survives the incident with third degree burns and later dies in the hospital.

Two boys in different positions with different circumstances yet still having something to do with their own moral compass

Though Johnny and Simon are different in circumstances their lives and themselves still have a way of having so much in common. Johnny being the center of the question on what the right and wrong of his situation was after HE killed someone. Versus Simon who was the one to be murdered instead. Simon became the more logic of the group not obsessed with power and who in the end kept himself from becoming the savage that the rest of the boys became. Ralph questioned the death of Simon. The fact that they just killed their follow friend and no one seems to blink an eye. Simon becomes kind of a turning point for Ralph and his moral compass. Johnny who was the one to kill someone though he didn't show remorse for that at first doing it out of a means of self defense, fear, and protectiveness. Johnny later feels guilty after he has time to think about what he has done and the life both Ponyboy and him have to live.


Brothers...I guess

Though there is a lot of darkness surrounding the Lord of the Flies there is still a resemblance of companionship though hidden under tragedy and some rude remarks. The savageness and loss of innocence in Lord of the Flies doesn't completely take away the companionship within the novel. Ralph comes off as rude and dismissive towards Piggy along with everybody else on the island. He called him names, outed his nickname to the rest of the group, didn't back him up. But throughout the book the deeper you get into it the less and less Ralph is mocking towards Piggy and really just focused on getting rescued and keeping the group from losing themselves in this hunt encouraged by Jack. But in the end it felt as thought Ralph may have appreciated Piggy more then he realized.

In The Outsiders greasers consist of a group of guys who have all had it rough. Though they get in a lot of trouble and argue and sometimes push each other around they will always be a team. They lost one of their own and stuck together. The younger ones were more of the ones who may have been taken for granted but when Johnny dies and things escalated Ponyboy became more appreciated. Johnny and Ponyboy's relationship was always very solid from beginning to Johnny's end and even after that. But the bond between Darry and Ponyboy was strained especially after their argument.

In both of these books though they were all going through hard times there were friendships that stemmed and in some cases it took awhile to appreciate. Ralph and Piggy weren't the only ones nor Ponyboy and Johnny. Companionship between the twins as they stuck together, the strength between Dally, Ponyboy, and Johnny when Dally helped them runaway and hide. Boys in both books try to stick together and have someone to have there back, one way or another.

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